
Sakkar Arenith
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Posted - 2011.11.01 15:28:00 -
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Hannibal Ord wrote:Oh for gods sake.
A long time ago, Minmatar were a bloody shocking race to fly. The issue was, their weapon system was totally and utterly crap.
During this period of EVE's history it was Gallente that was top dog.
Amarr, somewhat unjustifiably was also thought of as a poor race to fly.
Caldari, with their crappy missile systems, were also a joke.
Over time Amarr ships and lasers were improved - the laser now being the best weapon system in the game as it stands, mounted on often perfect platforms - yes it is even better than projectiles.
Caldari had a missile balancing patch, which brought almost every weapon system into line bar Rockets and Cruise Missiles. Rockets have since been fixed, cruise missiles still have some issues.
Minmatar too, have benefited from a buff to their weapon system. This buff, has IMO, balanced them against lasers and results basically in a mostly equal weapon system. Both lasers and projectiles share similar engagement range - but one favours higher dps, quality of hit and instant ammo switching. The other favours less dps due to falloff...but same range overall, switch-able damage types and immunity to neuts. They are the two sides of the same coin in terms of balance to each other.
Hybrids and Gallente ships in general got shafted and are unbalanced because drones are crap, blasters are crap, rails are crap and active tanking is crap.
I don't really understand all this call for projectile nerf, since they are totally balanced with lasers.
My post doesn't go into my detail about exactly the changes and problems but that is kinda it in a nutshell... and IMO all this shouting about nerfing Minmatar isn't really justified. And before you ask whilst I fly all races, equally the only issues really atm with this game for PVP and indeed PVE are Gallente(and Caldari hybrid platforms). They are downright bullshit compared to the other races, with any luck this upcoming patch will boost them. Amarr, with their laser boats are still just as if not more competitive than their Minmatar counterparts.
If you nerf Minmatar, then you basically make Amarr THE race to fly, with few exceptions, in almost every ship category in the game.
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wow....
Either this is pure trolling or youre quite ******** when it comes to eve mechanics or history indeed.
The only time amarr was top dog was before the stacking nerf two lifetimes ago. back then the 8 heat sink geddon was the FOTM. Ever since that point amarr has been tagging along...
Scorch, is basically the one and only reason that amarr ships are on par with the other races. ( And yes its imba, but amarr doesnt really have anything else...)
Anyway, rails always sucked. It was supposed tob e an ultra long range weapon in a game that does not allow fights over 30km to realistically happen.
Blasters used to be decent, but the webber nerf, along with the mwd changes made blaster boats very impractical.
However, the AC buff was actually what messed up the balance.
ACs have: - very decent range for 95% of combat situations - Best Tracking - best ammo variety - no cap use - very decent dps (and that is even before you apply the dmg type freedom)
- and they have almost non existent fitting requirements!
As such, Autocannons, not projectiles per se, are imba as hell. Because they simply have no downsides.
Now of course some minmatar ships are the FOTM (.. for five years ina row now..), but a lot of that is due to the fact that they can field a full rack of top tier ACs, along with a tank AND speed.
Ergo:
Nerf ACs by reducing on paper dps and by increasing their fitting requirements significantly |

Sakkar Arenith
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.01 15:43:00 -
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MNagy wrote:I could argue the same problem about the drake's tank.
You can solo a c3 and possibly a c4 a hurricane cannot
If you think a minny ship is better - skill it up just as if i think a drake is good for some things - ill skill that up.
Nothing is stopping you.
Yes, and the drake needs a nerf too.
The key word is ******* BALANCE! If one ship or races is used disproportionally often, then guess what, something is WRONG, and needs ADJUSTMENT |